tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975754614996641942.post5522804033722926315..comments2023-07-20T18:50:36.863+09:00Comments on No base stories of Korea: Text Fwd: South Korean government impeded Russian team's Cheonan investigation: Donald GreggNO Base Stories of Koreahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14659424045461880462noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975754614996641942.post-77270044447735307432010-09-08T11:47:54.455+09:002010-09-08T11:47:54.455+09:00Conspiracy theory?
That's begging the questi...Conspiracy theory? <br /><br />That's begging the question, petitio principii. Is it "conspiracy theory"? Is it outlandishly false? Have you proven that? <br /><br />Is it "held by a person judged to be a crank or a group confined to the lunatic fringe," such as(?) the aforementioned physicist and professor in the American universities, and the millions and millions of South Korean and Korean-American citizens? <br /><br />Were Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post conspiracy theorists too? <br /><br />Maybe a false analogy. <br />Rather, it may be <br />"it certainly has echoes of conspiracy theories like those surrounding the 1972 Watergate Break-in of President Richard M. Nixon." <br /><br /><br />The comparison to the Warren Commission seems absurd. <br />Maybe a false analogy, once again. <br /><br />The South Korean JIG(Joint Investigation Group) was no Warren Commission. <br />The JIG's chairman was not the Chief Justice <br />of South Korea. <br />The JIG's members were not at all filled with the South Korean National Assembly Members and legal counsels like the Warren Commission was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975754614996641942.post-29255926953225963902010-09-08T11:46:16.885+09:002010-09-08T11:46:16.885+09:004. Compare and contrast.
9/11; Al-Qaeda; brags We ...4. Compare and contrast.<br />9/11; Al-Qaeda; brags We did it(, was not wrong, not sorry about it and we will do it again).<br />Cheonan; North Korea; brags We didn’t do it (therefore, presumably, was wrong, sorry about it and we will not do it). (Why the difference?)<br />Crime and punishment. If we are taking consequentialist moral philosophy, and if the utilitarian utility of punishment is to prevent future crime, then punishment serves little or no purpose (maybe to others but not)to North Korea who says ‘We didn’t do it,’ because either (a) the North didn’t do it, therefore the punishment will be outrageous injustice,<br />or (b) the North did do it, but ‘We didn’t do it’ basically implies ‘We will not do it.’<br />(This particular ‘it’ hardly gives the North any payoff.)<br />*If you don’t get scared of us, how can We become the terrorist, and if you don’t know We did it, how can you get scared of us?<br /><br />5. Representative democracy is not pure democracy. (Pure)Direct democracy of a nation-size is now (or becoming) possible, through recent developments in computer science and technology, making secure private Internet-voting, democratic online discussions, cheap instantaneous micro referendum and freedom of choice to vote directly on an issue or use an agent possible.<br />The science (computer science) should finally make the people, the governed, the actual de facto governor in democracy.<br /><br />6. I take this honor of hereby formally asking the folks in Norway to consider awarding a Nobel Peace Prize to the “Supposedly less so enlightened” Korean people including myself,<br />who in early days, among various activities, proposed the “outside” world contact initiative for the Cheonan peace, providing email addresses of all the foreign embassies in Korea, U.N., Hillary, Obama, and the foreign media.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975754614996641942.post-62854063115849798572010-09-08T11:41:08.426+09:002010-09-08T11:41:08.426+09:00To the “outside” world intellectuals who don’t rea...To the “outside” world intellectuals who don’t read Korean,<br /><br />This is a remarkable story of people – the governed(although they are in theory supposed to be the actual governor in democracy), not their government - making difference in the world (history).<br /><br />1. Compare and contrast.<br />“More enlightened” American people, Congress and media; Bush; WMD; War (and huge suffering),<br />(http://whitehouser.com/war/CIA-confirms-Bush-WMD-lie )<br />and,<br />“Supposedly less so enlightened” Korean people; Korean President Lee; Cheonan; prevention of War (so far).<br />(I am including among ‘the Korean people’ the Korean-Americans.)<br /><br />2. Also remarkable is that the “inside” Korean people braved the government prosecution.<br />Caveat: Under the current South Korean regime, South Korean citizens can be sued for defamation by their own government officials, and defamation in South Korea is a crime (as well as a civil offense) prosecuted by the government’s own centrally controlled national prosecutors who selectively choose or choose not whom to prosecute.<br />Recently, Shin Sang-cheol, “an expert placed on the JIG [Joint Investigation Group] by” the National Assembly, got (criminally) sued for defamation by a government official for expressing disagreement over the current South Korean regime’s version of the Cheonan Incident. (http://www.zimbio.com/Mizuho+Fukushima/articles/BvIMjqn_oLw/South+Korean+Investigation+Team+Member+Mr )<br /><br />(South Korean people’s firsthand knowledge about the pro-government polls is that they are ridiculously overinflated.<br />A proof: war-fear-mongering South Korean President Lee Myung-bak got unexpectedly humiliated on the June 2 midterm election by the “Supposedly less so enlightened” Korean people,<br />when “survey conducted by the major daily [pro-government]Dong-A Ilbo and the Korea Research Center from May 24 to 26[7-days-before] forecast[ed] that Oh would beat Han by 20.8 percent.”<br />Actual election result: 0.6 percent(=”47.4 percent”-”46.8 percent.”)<br />Source: http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2921960 )<br /><br />3. A list of early English publications on Questions on the Cheonan Incident and the Power of South Korean Netizens can be found at http://korea.true.ws (by LetsTry Reason) and newer writings at http://letstryreason.wordpress.com .<br /><br />Also, look at: “the U.S, South Korea, the U.K, Canada and Australia, but not Sweden [NOT Sweden], contributed to the second-statement findings [claiming that North Korea might be guilty]” – “Five reasons why the the JIG’s 5-page statement cannot be considered scientific and objective, nor … ‘international’”<br />http://japanfocus.org/-JOHN-MCGLYNN/3372 ;<br />“Russian Probe Sees No North Korea Hand In Cheonan Sinking! Russia Says Sea Mine Sunk Cheonan”<br />http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/russian-probe-sees-no-north-korea-hand-in-cheonan-sinking/ ;<br />http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/pcc-772-cheonan-south-korean-government-admits-the-deception-and-then-lies-about-it/ ;<br />http://nature.com/news/2010/080710/full/news.2010.343.html ;<br />http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-korea-torpedo-20100724,0,4196801,full.storyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com